.Andrei Pivovarov was just one of the 16 captives without Russia in recently's primary prisoner exchange between Moscow and the West.The prominent adversary protestor, 42, was pulled off a Warsaw-bound plane through Russian security solutions in 2021 after the pro-democracy team Open Russia, which he moved, was disallowed as " unwanted." He was actually sentenced to 4 years behind bars in 2022 for his partner with the group.The Moscow Moments contacted Pivovarov concerning the swap and his think about the future:.MT: How did you feel when you were being actually required to the airport terminal? Did you understand that it was a swap?AP: By the time our team came to the flight terminal, it was presently very clear that our experts were actually being actually needed to a swap, but our team failed to recognize where.I suspect I entirely understood the quite reality of what was occurring when I was actually being actually derived from the swarm on Saturday early morning. It was actually the 25th [of July] I realized that something remarkable was actually happening since I was actually gotten by the scalp of the colony as well as he personally helped me hold my points. Yet there were no specifics.You tend to think the worst in any type of not clear circumstance. I had all form of ideas. Yet there was actually an instant when I was actually sent out-- I must authorize for a dry provision. And I view a name on the previous line: Alexandra Skochilenko. As well as I make certain that if Sasha and I are together, it's rarely a negative story.I believed that it would feel like in the movies-- an arena where our experts are absolved by the tsar as well as discharged facing the RT cams. The 2nd probability was a model of the philosophers' plane, which unfortunately became much more true in life.Yet every little thing was actually covered up until the actual side. When our team were brought to Lefortovo [Prison, before the substitution], our team remained in solitude and might certainly not contact anybody.On Thursday morning they delivered our team a release certification with no purchase number, nothing. We possessed half a hr to pack, our experts took our things.There were actually people in disguises as well as attires with our team. If any of our team resisted and rejected to become deported, their activity was to put our team on the airplane whatsoever. They clearly informed us that later.The first individual I observed on the bus was actually [Ilya] Yashin. It was actually surely nice to find him. There were familiar and also unknown skins after that, yet personally, I was actually extremely worried whether Volodya Kara-Murza will exist. He was among the final to become produced, which was a significant alleviation, since he possesses the longest sentence.Perform anonymous lobbied for your inclusion in the listing?How the listings were developed is actually a mystery to me. I haven't managed to consult with all my associates however. Coming from my understanding, there were different teams from which relevant information was compiled and also the last checklist was actually considerably larger than what you have actually observed. And also it was shortened by Russia. When all the wants were gathered as well as connected and also sort of set, fewer people were at some point launched.You were actually expected to become launched in a month ...This is just one of the absolute most tough things for me. If you take a look at my criminal lawsuit, the duration that I had left behind [to serve] can easily not be matched up to the regards to the others [political prisoners]I can say that I have information coming from several sources that the possibility of my release [in the end of my sentence] was certainly not guaranteed. That is actually why I ended up on the checklist. Our company have actually viewed examples where folks were arrested on their way out of the swarm because some brand-new illegal scenarios levelled. And also however, there were actually calls that stated that in my case, the outcome could not be the most ideal.What are your programs now? Do you know what you will do in the future?I am actually currently a person with no documents and no sense of home. I was actually released a Russian interior travel permit as well as I possess two papers-- one substitutes my [overseas ticket] and the 2nd changes my visa. As it was revealed to me, these documents permit me to stay in Germany for 15 times-- particularly in Germany, certainly not in the EU. It's tough to bring in major plannings. Therefore in the beginning, of course, I wish to fix the domestic elements.And then-- I have been carrying out social and also political help 15-20 years. My keep in prison performed certainly not repel me coming from it, yet as a matter of fact motivated me much more. I have some suggestions, as I had opportunity to think as well as ponder [in prison]And also the major target listed here, possibly, is to attempt to talk extra with those who stayed inside [Russia] To attempt to use a strategy to team up with those who might certainly not be our advocates, but that are actually annoyed with what is actually happening. If we may give them [folks in Russia] the possibility to express on their own without putting on their own at severe danger, I presume that's what an autonomous power should perform.